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		By: Julie Risien		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Risien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bev - I stumbled across this today looking for Jackie&#039;s contact info.  This is so well said.  I shared it with my fellow network researchers.  It certainly reflects my experience. I wonder how this might apply to adaptive course-ware and Learning Management Systems.  Universities are keen to invest, but they may be leaving behind the social artistry of facilitating student success!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bev &#8211; I stumbled across this today looking for Jackie&#8217;s contact info.  This is so well said.  I shared it with my fellow network researchers.  It certainly reflects my experience. I wonder how this might apply to adaptive course-ware and Learning Management Systems.  Universities are keen to invest, but they may be leaving behind the social artistry of facilitating student success!</p>
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		By: kay kobayashi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-350&quot;&gt;Susan Mahoney&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Susan!?! What a nice meeting here, with YOU!
Are you doing well in thesis? Done?
Hope you are enjoying your research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-350">Susan Mahoney</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Susan!?! What a nice meeting here, with YOU!<br />
Are you doing well in thesis? Done?<br />
Hope you are enjoying your research.</p>
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		By: Susan Mahoney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Mahoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 00:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-345&quot;&gt;kay kobayashi&lt;/a&gt;.

Kay - what an absolute delight to see your posting. I hope you are well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-345">kay kobayashi</a>.</p>
<p>Kay &#8211; what an absolute delight to see your posting. I hope you are well.</p>
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		By: Barb McDonald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb McDonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 13:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-347&quot;&gt;Team BE&lt;/a&gt;.

I have done several technology implementations (design and training) in my career.  In all cases, I have to remind C-level stakeholders that the workers don&#039;t NEED the technology.  They are able to do their jobs just fine without it.  YOU need them to use the technology, because it improves YOUR bottom line.  Therefore, the technology must become part of the working processes and there needs to be carrots and sticks in place to get workers to use the technology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-347">Team BE</a>.</p>
<p>I have done several technology implementations (design and training) in my career.  In all cases, I have to remind C-level stakeholders that the workers don&#8217;t NEED the technology.  They are able to do their jobs just fine without it.  YOU need them to use the technology, because it improves YOUR bottom line.  Therefore, the technology must become part of the working processes and there needs to be carrots and sticks in place to get workers to use the technology.</p>
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		By: Christina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-344&quot;&gt;Martin&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, this is really so well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-344">Martin</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, this is really so well said.</p>
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		By: Team BE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Team BE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-345&quot;&gt;kay kobayashi&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Kay.... yes, you&#039;re right.

Myself, I&#039;m a nerd. I have always been ahead of the curve with technology and use it in all my projects. It&#039;s just that a single focus on technology - or technology training - without the rest simply will not work. 

Let&#039;s just hope that in your organization you don&#039;t start revering technology or looking for a technology solution at the price of all the knowledge you have about quality conversations and content.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-345">kay kobayashi</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Kay&#8230;. yes, you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>Myself, I&#8217;m a nerd. I have always been ahead of the curve with technology and use it in all my projects. It&#8217;s just that a single focus on technology &#8211; or technology training &#8211; without the rest simply will not work. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just hope that in your organization you don&#8217;t start revering technology or looking for a technology solution at the price of all the knowledge you have about quality conversations and content.</p>
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		By: Team BE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Team BE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-344&quot;&gt;Martin&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Martin - great to see you over here! 

Yes, there is a price to getting collaboration to happen. Be careful for what you wish for is what we sometimes tell our clients!

We have tried to address the business model of a community with our value-creation framework, where we focus on the value that it creates on different dimensions, including the business. 

Do you find that it resonates with you at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-344">Martin</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Martin &#8211; great to see you over here! </p>
<p>Yes, there is a price to getting collaboration to happen. Be careful for what you wish for is what we sometimes tell our clients!</p>
<p>We have tried to address the business model of a community with our value-creation framework, where we focus on the value that it creates on different dimensions, including the business. </p>
<p>Do you find that it resonates with you at all?</p>
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		By: kay kobayashi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kay kobayashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 01:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, our company (Japanese small Learning and Development training and consulting company) is behind (very much) in technology. Old applications used, no &quot;wireless&quot; environment in the office area, using very old &quot;Toshiba&quot; or &quot;Fujitsu&quot; PCs. Obviously, no good looking from Techie people and companies. However, or because of that, we have to discuss face to face with each other, exchange good proposal templates, and share unique cases other people can use as well, with more conversations and Q&#038;A opportunities. This process may help our people with learning each other resulting in knowledge share...yes, tedious process. But we need Technologies... Who knows the balance best possible?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, our company (Japanese small Learning and Development training and consulting company) is behind (very much) in technology. Old applications used, no &#8220;wireless&#8221; environment in the office area, using very old &#8220;Toshiba&#8221; or &#8220;Fujitsu&#8221; PCs. Obviously, no good looking from Techie people and companies. However, or because of that, we have to discuss face to face with each other, exchange good proposal templates, and share unique cases other people can use as well, with more conversations and Q&amp;A opportunities. This process may help our people with learning each other resulting in knowledge share&#8230;yes, tedious process. But we need Technologies&#8230; Who knows the balance best possible?</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A collaboration platform is familiar to managers. It&#039;s a toy with a price. And it&#039;s a way to establish a territory. They love it.
Community building is tedious. It takes time and effort, and, at the end of the day when people collaborate too well, the manager feels in danger.
I really think that we are missing the fundamental question of the business model of a community, which is about managing shared knowledge as a common good. We really have to address that question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A collaboration platform is familiar to managers. It&#8217;s a toy with a price. And it&#8217;s a way to establish a territory. They love it.<br />
Community building is tedious. It takes time and effort, and, at the end of the day when people collaborate too well, the manager feels in danger.<br />
I really think that we are missing the fundamental question of the business model of a community, which is about managing shared knowledge as a common good. We really have to address that question.</p>
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		By: Bev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-342&quot;&gt;Barb McDonald&lt;/a&gt;.

Noooooo ......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/a-consultants-anguish/#comment-342">Barb McDonald</a>.</p>
<p>Noooooo &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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