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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The other day we did a BEtreat workshop, originally scheduled to be face-to-face, online and over three days. It was with clients who were preparing to launch an online community &#8230;<p class="read-more"> <a class="" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/creating-community-online/"> <span class="screen-reader-text">Creating community online</span> Read More &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The other day we did a <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/betreat/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" title="BEtreat workshop" class="broken_link">BEtreat workshop</a>, originally scheduled to be face-to-face, online and over three days. It was with clients who were preparing to launch an online community of practice.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The workshop generated some of the same feelings of camaraderie and joint enterprise that we get in our face-to-face workshops. The person who organized it had been at a face-to-face BEtreat the previous year, loved it, and was surprised to experience how well they compared.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The overwhelming feeling was how different it felt to a “normal” training or community meeting, where often they felt quite passive. And how bonded participants became and the inspiration and confidence they felt they were taking with them.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The tools we used were Zoom, <a href="https://mural.co/" title="Mural">Mural.co</a>, Google drive, and Google photos. Why do we like these tools and what were the practices that “worked”?</span></p>
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<h4><b>Why we like Zoom</b></h4>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Two things about Zoom that make it the best for us: </span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">One is the toggle between Speaker and Gallery view. And that your own picture appears the same size and with the others in Gallery View. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">The other is the breakout rooms and how easy it is to set up and run with them. It’s also quite wonderful the way you can bring everyone back together at the touch of a button! Zoom sends a 60 second warning (you can adjust this).</span></li>
</ul>
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<h4><b>Why we like Mural</b></h4>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mural has lots of features (so many that it can look a bit daunting when you first use it). But these are the ones we appreciated most in our workshop:</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can put LOTS on a mural (we put the agenda and activities all up in different areas on one mural). A mural size is possibly infinite and you zoom in and out of the areas you want to work on up close.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can divide your mural into areas (and areas within areas). </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can link directly to these areas (and if you click on the link, that area of the mural fits your screen). This was useful for lots of reasons. For example, in a breakout room conversation on Zoom, the group can click directly onto a link that would take them to the area where they were going to take notes or work on something together. There is no faffing about “Where do we have to go now?”</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">There are two ways to navigate around a mural. One is with a small zoom in the bottom right of your screen where you can easily zoom in and out. The other is by using Outline mode (see right on the image above), which gives you the equivalent of a table of contents taking you to any object on the mural you have added to the Outline  </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can export the whole mural, or one area of a mural to a PDF (or image file).</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It has hundreds (millions?) of icons</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can use voting on a mural… just like putting sticky dots onto a flip chart paper.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mural works great on an iPad.</span></li>
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<p><b>Why we like Google docs (or Google drive)</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">We mostly like the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">combination</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> of google docs and the other tools. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"></span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">We put the agenda in google docs with links to specific parts of the mural (or other places) we are going to work on. The agenda is like “home base”.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">We love (and I mean love) the way that everyone can reflect into the same google doc and see what others are writing at the same time. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The google folder with all the documents in it becomes a shared memory of the event created in real time.</span></li>
</ul>
<h4><span style="font-weight: 400;"><b>Some practices that worked great</b></span></h4>
<p></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">We had a sketch to show what tools we were using and for what purpose. The sketch linked the tools with a physical map that already existed in people&#8217;s imagination.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">We took mini-breaks every hour or so to stretch or look out the window.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">We had a shared photo album (google photos) where each day people shared and talked about pics they had put up. We did this in Zoom during the half hour or so before the official start time. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">We paused at regular intervals to invite people to put their reflections, insights, and ongoing questions into a shared google document. One person’s reflection can trigger another person’s aha. And what people write becomes part of a shared narrative about their learning.</span></li>
</ul>
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<h4><strong>Some final thoughts</strong></h4>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Most surprising to us was how fast three hours went by. It occurred to us that a full day online might be less tiring than a full day face-to-face (when everyone is online). Three days seemed about the right length of time.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">We also reflected that we should only do online workshops for people who are going to be working with online communities. It is completely different to “do” community online than to talk about how to do it while you are in a face-to-face setting (duh!) It was immensely satisfying to see how people could really feel the difference between developing a social learning space online and some of the more transmission mode activities that had become accustomed to doing in an online community meeting.  </span></p>
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		<title>Can you hear me?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2020 13:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Virtual meetings and events can be invigorating and a full learning experience...]]></description>
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<p class="p1"><span class="s1">It’s easy to think of participation in virtual meetings or events as second cousins.</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">And often it is. Sound quality is poor and made worse by people not muting their mics. There are no informal spaces for serendipitous conversations. And worst of all &#8211; people transport poor meeting or event practices into an online space where they are amplified by unfamiliarity with the technology.</span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">I would like to share when I like online participation. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Note that online participation can be synchronous (all in same time e.g. conference call) or asychronous (at different times e.g. a discussion group). For the most part, it is a mix of both. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>Feeling connected with people I might otherwise not meet</b></span></p>
<ul class="ul1">
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">This happens in meetings where there are <i>small group conversations</i> &#8211; for example in breakout rooms, discussion forums, on Twitter…</span></li>
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">It takes place at events where there are <i>spaces to find out more about other people beyond their work personna</i> and discovering I have something in common with them e.g. online café, informal introductions e.g. in a google doc</span></li>
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">It’s more likely to happen with an agenda/program where a small <i>group of us are solving a problem or preparing for an initiative together</i></span></li>
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">I feel it most when there is <i>a place where there is cheeky banter and we can be playful</i></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>Learning from reflection and feedback</b></span></p>
<ul class="ul1">
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">I learn so much when there are <i>regular moments and spaces for everyone to take notes in a shared document</i> (e.g. google docs). There is time in the agenda to write down our key insights and ongoing questions from the previous session/conversation and read and comment on what others have said. </span></li>
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">I love asynchronous conversation more generally. I’m more of a ponderous person who finds quick quips and clever replies only after everyone has generally gone home (!) so <i>having time to interact someone’s words in my own time helps me express myself better</i></span></li>
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">It’s easy to <i>take the temperature in or at the end of an online meeting</i>, through a chat channel, a tool (e.g. mentimeter). That’s great for making iterative adjustments to group dynamics, agenda design, and for future events. </span></li>
</ul>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>A shared memory on the go</b></span></p>
<ul class="ul1">
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">It’s great <i>having a record of the meeting/event</i>: a recording of the whole thing or parts of it; the conversations, reflections, questions, and insights; analytics data of who was there, their device, and other info that helps you plan for the next meeting.</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>Distributed leadership</b></span></p>
<ul class="ul1">
<li class="li1"><span class="s1">There is a lot to do in an online event and it’s <i>an opportunity to share out the leadership</i> &#8211; taking care of the tech, looking out for people wanding into the wrong space, gathering the different issues and ideas into one shared space, reaching out to people who can’t get in. It’s really an opportunity to reach out and build a sense of community. </span></li>
</ul>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Am I the only one who enjoys these things? What else do people like, appreciate or even love about virtual meetings and events? </span></p>
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		<title>Blending online and face-to-face</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blending online and face-to-face participation in a workshop. What are some of the innovations we tried this year?]]></description>
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<p class="Body" style="text-align: left;">A range of feelings as we finish two <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/betreat/" class="broken_link">BEtreat workshops for social learning leaders</a> at our house in California: excitement at the potential, sadness at seeing old and new friends leave, and relief that we can now put our feet up.</p>
<p class="Body">There is always a moment when face-to-face folk wave good-bye to those participating online. The feeling on both sides is one of friends parting. What is it that gets us to that moment?</p>
<p class="Body">We&#8217;ve written before about our experience of blending online and face-to-face (<a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/all/ill-take-you-with-me/">here</a> and <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/resources/practice/what-equipment-do-we-use-at-betreat/" class="broken_link">here</a>) but I thought I&#8217;d revisit the topic with our ongoing learning about what works for us &#8211; and what we could do better.</p>
<p class="Body"><em>(Main photo is a screenshot from an online participant)</em></p>
<h2>The tech set-up</h2>
<p><a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA_wiki_front_page.jpg" class="broken_link"><img class="size-medium wp-image-6667" src="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA_wiki_front_page-300x232.jpg" alt="BEtreat wiki" width="300" height="232" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Wiki</strong><br />
As usual, we have a wiki for our online home. It&#8217;s the first meeting place for online and face-to-face folk.  We share the program and resources and each participant has their own page for reflections and for sharing the project they are working on. We start using the wiki before people arrive &#8211; for personal introductions, signing up to <a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/resources/leadership-groups-for-social-learning/">a leadership group</a>, and sharing travel logistics.  Everyone is invited to connect on Skype and have each other&#8217;s contact information before the workshop begins. This makes it quicker to connect in small groups during different activities.</p>
<p><strong>Devices</strong><br />
There were a number of innovations this year. We got rid of the big screen where we used Adobe Connect to project slides along with the online participants. A screen sends the energy to the wall rather than keeping it in the group space. This year slides were on the wiki, which people accessed on their own device. It&#8217;s easier these days because a) &#8220;everyone&#8221; has a device and b) devices and portable computers take up considerably less space than they used to, so the table doesn&#8217;t feel crammed.  Our concern that people would then have their nose in their device rather than with the group did not happen. People are so used to having their own device at meetings that it felt very natural and did not detract from conversations.</p>
<p><strong>Skype</strong><br />
We used to use Adobe Connect for visuals and Skype for sound. But without the need to project slides, we only used Skype for the synchronous discussions. The sound and image quality in Skype is so much better. And combining Adobe and Skype occupies too much bandwidth for people who don&#8217;t have great connectivity.</p>
<p><strong>Displays<img class="size-medium wp-image-6672 alignright" src="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA-life-size-300x170.jpg" alt="Life size" width="300" height="170" /></strong><br />
Instead of the big screen, we had a high-resolution Apple Thunderbolt display for the online folks in the room. It made us feel like they were sitting with us around the table.  As before, we also connected into the Skype conversations with a phone attached to a selfie-stick so that there were close-ups of the person talking.</p>
<p><strong>WhatsApp</strong><br />
Another innovation this year is that we used WhatsApp for side conversations rather that the chat function of Adobe or Skype. This worked really well for keeping up a social conversation that included everyone &#8211; face-to-face and online folks. And the conversation could continue on any device, whether we were on Skype or not.</p>
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<p><strong>Tech notes:</strong> The sound quality from our <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TGTDFM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1">MXL AC404 USB conference microphone</a> (price $83.99) is excellent, better than ones we&#8217;ve used before. (Aside: it&#8217;s also light and compact so ideal for traveling). We still use the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-Laptop-Webcam-Camera/dp/B00CRJWW2G/ref=sr_1_cc_4?s=aps&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1469398278&amp;sr=1-4-catcorr&amp;keywords=logitech+camera">Logitech C930e laptop webcam</a> (price $104.28) with its wide-angle view.</p>
<h2>Some practices</h2>
<p>Here are some of the things we do that people have said work:</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA-online-breakfast.jpg" class="broken_link"><img class="size-medium wp-image-6675 alignleft" src="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA-online-breakfast-300x200.jpg" alt="Online breakfast" width="300" height="200" /></a>Gather first</strong><br />
We start at 8:00 a.m. with breakfast and coffee. Online folk are brought in on a device and join the breakfast conversation. I don&#8217;t think it would generate the same buzz if we got down straight away to work at the table.</p>
<p><strong>Buddy up</strong><br />
Everyone has a turn at being a buddy with an online person. They become the eyes and ears for them in the room and make sure they don&#8217;t get left behind. There is something about caring for someone that creates quite a bond.</p>
<p><strong>Switch leading</strong><br />
Everyone has a chance to lead a session, which means we get some people leading from a fac<img class="size-medium wp-image-6676 alignright" src="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/16CA-Online-lead-300x200.jpg" alt="Online lead" width="300" height="200" />e-to-face position and some from an online position. It&#8217;s a good switch of modes. We even had one session where Etienne ended up participating online (even though he was just sitting in another room). That also helped to equalize the conversation.</p>
<p><strong>Extend your “home</strong><br />
Every artifact that is created during the workshop goes in the wiki. It&#8217;s as if the wiki was an extension of the physical building &#8211; or the physical building is an extension of the wiki. Not only does this make everything (except food and drink) accessible, it also helps us create a good record of each workshops.</p>
<h2>What doesn&#8217;t work</h2>
<p><strong>Too many people talking at once</strong><br />
Face-to-face folk can sit round a table and have multiple conversations going in parallel. It simply doesn&#8217;t work if you are online. Everything is going through the same microphone and it&#8217;s a noisy garbled mess.</p>
<p><strong>No buddy</strong><br />
Sometimes we forget to assign or remind a buddy and an online person gets left on a table waiting &#8230; That doesn&#8217;t work!</p>
<p><strong>Busy busy</strong><br />
If you participate face-to-face you tend to seal off the four days for a workshop. But if you are participating online it can be tempting to try and squeeze in some meetings. We tell people that this is a four-day experience, whether you are online or face-to-face. It&#8217;s an immersive experience and not one you can dip in and out of. You need to be locked away from your family and work colleagues.</p>
<h2>Why participate online?</h2>
<p><strong>Practical reasons</strong><br />
People participate online for a number of reasons, including travel costs to California, visa issues to the U.S., needing to be somewhere etc.</p>
<p><strong>Pacing yourself</strong><br />
But there are people who prefer the online experience. We’ve heard a similar line from several people who have participated in both face-to-face and online mode. They say that online participation is better for reflection. They find the face-to-face version intense and with competing calls to your attention. For example, at breaks you are drawn into yet more interesting conversations with people you want to hear from. But if you are online it&#8217;s easier to gather your thoughts, reflect, and work at your own pace.</p>
<p><strong>Online charisma</strong><br />
We have also noticed that the people who prefer online often perform better when they are online. They have a charismatic online persona and can hold the group&#8217;s attention in ways that weren&#8217;t so noticeable in face-to-face interactions. It is a curious observation.</p>
<h2>What we need to get better at</h2>
<p><strong>Leveraging online presence</strong><br />
What are the advantages that an online person has over a face-to-face person in a small group activity? Our activities tend to assume that an online person has to be &#8220;brought in&#8221;, but what about “flip” activities where online folks have the advantage and bring in the face-to-face folks.</p>
<p><strong>Exploring vulnerability</strong><br />
Participating online in a face-to-face has some similarities to being in a wheelchair. People can talk over your head, or as if you weren&#8217;t there. You are dependent on someone &#8220;carrying you&#8221; (on a device) to join a conversation. You are at the mercy, to some extent, of someone who is participating face-to-face. Feeling vulnerable is an important dimension of learning. How can we turn this online experience of vulnerability by an online participant into a learning opportunity for all?</p>
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<p><em>Is anyone else out there exploring the boundaries of blending online and face-to-face (with a budget of your average community)?</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I like being carried”</p>
<p>“I feel very taken care of”</p>
<p>“I could only see legs in that last session”</p>
<p>“Yikes, I’m feeling sea-sick”</p>
<p>No, those comments don’t come from a class of kumbaya gymnastics but from online participants in our BEtreat workshop for social learning leaders who were being carried around on laptops.</p>
<p>We’ve been developing our skills for integrating online and face-to-face participants in our workshops and are definitely coming closer to making it a full experience with fewer technical hitches. Our ambition has always been to be able to do it smoothly with technology that is within range of non-specialists.</p>
<p>Almost gone are the days of “hello can you hear us?” … A combination of better quality sound on most devices, people’s adeptness at using different technologies, and a different room set up has all contributed to a better sound experience.</p>
<p>Our new addition to the <a title="Hardware at BEtreat" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/blog/what-equipment-do-we-use-at-betreat/">hardware at this workshop</a> was <a title="Grip handle" href="http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-less-Universal-Smartphone-Blackberry-Smartphones/dp/B00ICRASD2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a grip handle</a> for a smartphone. The grip handle turned an iPhone (with camera on) into a talking stick so that online people could get a close-up of the person who was talking. (Proviso: <a title="Handle design flaw" href="http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-less-Universal-Smartphone-Blackberry-Smartphones/product-reviews/B00ICRASD2/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&amp;filterBy=addOneStar&amp;showViewpoints=0&amp;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending" target="_blank" rel="noopener">handle design flaw</a> overcome with a work-around of blu-tac).</p>
<p>The (adapted) handle worked like a charm. “The room” and “The talking stick” are both logged into Adobe Connect and appear on video alongside the onliners showing both the perspective and the detail.</p>
<p>As for activities we made the online folk the “host” during the (small group) café conversations. They sat as talking heads at each table summarizing key points and guiding the conversation while face-to-face folk had to move tables. Their appreciation was for a number of reasons, not least of which is that it is tiring to be moved from room to room as you watch the walls swoop by and make sense of new angles of furniture and body parts.</p>
<p>Some other principles we have gathered for a good face-to-face/online experience include:</p>
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<li>Ratio of face-to-face to online <em>(2:1)</em></li>
<li>Tech check and preparation with online people in advance <em>(essential)</em></li>
<li>Keeping a chat going in the whole group sessions <em>(ask for volunteers)</em></li>
<li>Multiple devices to bring people in <em>(each device affords a different kind of presence)</em></li>
<li>Easy access to all contact details &#8211; Skype, email, and phone <em>(don’t leave online people hanging when things go wrong)</em></li>
<li>Design activities that put online people in control <em>(it’s tiring to feel dependent)</em></li>
<li>Playful inventiveness in connecting with people &#8220;on the other side&#8221; <em>(enjoyment of the challenge from face-to-face and online folk)</em></li>
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<p>If you are thinking of joining us in 2015, these are the dates:</p>
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<ul>July 7 &#8211; 10 (State-of-the-art)</ul>
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<ul>July 14 &#8211; 17 (Cutting-edge)</ul>
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<ul>July 21 &#8211; 24 (Academic)</ul>
<p>Keep up with early bird and registration dates by subscribing to <a title="Subscribe to Etienne and Bev&#039;s blog" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/subscriptions/" class="broken_link">our blog</a>, <a title="Etienne and Bev newsletter" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/newsletter/" class="broken_link">newsletter</a>, or <a title="BEtreat on twitter" href="https://twitter.com/betreat" target="_blank" rel="noopener">twitter</a>. And <a title="Contact Bev and Etienne" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/contact-us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="broken_link">drop us a line</a>, if you want to know more.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is the hardware we are using for BEtreat workshops?]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were asked at <a title="Cutting-edge BEtreat - 2012" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/betreat/cutting-edge-betreat/">the cutting-edge BEtreat</a> to go through the equipment we were using to bring online people into the room and to give some idea of how much it costs. Our intention is to use technology and equipment that would be within the budget of an average community (usually rather modest) and which doesn&#8217;t require an expert to come in and set up. It also has to be compatible with our Macs.</p>
<p>In whole group discussions &#8220;online folk&#8221; are projected onto a big screen at the front. We use <a title="Adobe Connect" href="http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="broken_link">Adobe Connect</a> for the video-conferencing and Skype for sound. The sound quality on Adobe Connect is not nearly so good as Skype. However, as we discovered at <a title="Academic BEtreat" href="https://wenger-trayner.dreamhosters.com/betreat/academic-betreat/" class="broken_link">the Academic BEtreat</a>, Skype sound with more than four people quite often drops.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tiring for onliners to be listening and participating for such long periods so we have invested in good microphones to give them better quality sound. We use music stands to prop up a computer or i-pad when they join in small group discussions with &#8220;face-to-facers&#8221;.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t claim that this is the ideal set-up &#8211; it is simply what we have found, mostly through googling and our trusted friends. Next BEtreat we&#8217;ll invest in more good microphones for the small group conversations instead of using internal computer mics. Up until now we&#8217;ve been using some perfectly good speakers we&#8217;ve had for a while to bring online voices into the room, although we ended up simply using our internal Mac Book Pro speakers in the Academic BEtreat.</p>
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<th style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;">Equipment</th>
<th style="vertical-align: top; width: 21px;">Qty</th>
<th style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">
<div style="text-align: center;">Price</div>
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<th style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px; text-align: center;">The good</th>
<th style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px; text-align: center;">The less good</th>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?sku=V11H373120" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 8350 1080p 3LCD Projector</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">1</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">$1,299</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">One of our best buys. Huge, but does very well in bright light. Optical lens shift  so you can easily move picture up and down or make it bigger or smaller.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">Gets very hot. Bulky, taking up a lot of space.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?sku=V11H268020" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Epson projector Powerlite 1725</a><br />
(discontinued)</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">1</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$1200</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">We use this for a second screen and for smaller groups wanting to project their online folks. Small and portable.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">Not an HD projector; screen is not so wide.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Project-Stand-Projection-11-25INX19IN-Table/dp/B000298U7Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener">203 Project-o Stand Projection 11.25INX19IN Table Shelf</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">1</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$114</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">Simple, robust stand that easily comes apart for storing.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;"></td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Model-96X96-Manual-Pull-Screen/dp/B0002855NC/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Da-lite Model B 96X96 Mw Manual Pull Down Screen<br />
</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">1</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$105</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">Great size!</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;"></td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Shure-PG42-USB-Vocal-Microphone/dp/B001U1IVBI/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shure PG42-USB Vocal Microphone </a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">1</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$249</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">Makes for very good quality sound. We also use it as a shared microphone for webinars and phone conferences. We&#8217;ll get more for small group conversations next year.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">Sensitive to background noise.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Stage-MS7201B-Round-Microphone-Stand/dp/B0002MJTZ8/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On-Stage MS7201B Microphone Stand </a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">2</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right; vertical-align: middle;">$23</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">Good, solid.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;"></td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Shure-PG288-Vocal-Wireless-System/dp/B000H9A810/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shure PG288/PG58 Dual Vocal Wireless System</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">2</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$495</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 167px;">Sound quality is excellent and they don&#8217;t pick up any feedback.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">Eats up batteries. Rechargeable 9 volt batteries last a few hours; non-rechargeable last a day.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Shure-PG30-TQG-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B000WDVBRQ/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shure PG30-TQG Cardioid Condenser Headset Microphone with TA4F Connector</a></td>
<td style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;">2</td>
<td style="vertical-align: middle; text-align: right;">$39</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">A good idea at the time for people leading a discussion.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">We used these for the first day in 2011. But we decided that a mic going around makes turn-taking explicit; this (and stating your name) helps online people know who&#8217;s talking.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/webcams/hd-pro-webcam-c920" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Logitech 960-000764 HD Pro Webcam </a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">6</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$99</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">Noticeably good quality for the price. We have two each for the main room and one for each small group.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">It would be good to have a videocam in this price range that could zoom</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/On-Stage-SM7211-Professional-Folding-Orchestral/dp/B0002F7IN0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On-Stage SM7211 Professional Folding Orchestral Music Stand, Black</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">20</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$30</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">We&#8217;re glad we went for the more expensive but solid ones. They were meant as a placeholder for online folk, but people use them for keeping papers and computers.</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width: 161px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Altec-Lansing-BXR1220-Speaker-System/dp/B0025VKUPW/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Altec Lansing BXR1220 2.0 Speaker System</a></td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: center;">4</td>
<td style="width: 27px; text-align: right;">$20</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">We attached these to the music stands to amplify the sound of online folk.</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">It never quite worked, so we haven&#8217;t used these speakers much.</td>
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